RE: gut-wrenching interview....

No... They are not political appointees. For High Court & Supreme Court
They are supposed to be appointed by the President. Although Article 50
of the constitution stipulates the separation of the judiciary from the
executive, the executive controls judicial appointments and many of the
conditions of work.
http://www.tehelka.com/home/20041009/new/march/7/ca030703judicial.htm
http://www.pucl.org/Topics/Law/2003/njc.htm
http://www.samarthbharat.com/basepaper.htm
http://www.peoplefirstindia.org/free_bharat/part9.htm

Srinivas, I was supposed to meet him at Mr.Singh's place but couldn't...
I got a few answers for some of my questions though.. Apparently he told
Mr.Singh that, "In his view corruption in India cannot be controlled"
we'll talk about it later.

Loksatta, They are basically a Think tank made up of ex-bureaucrats. I
haven't seen any youngsters in them. Singh says they are funded by the
same people whom they should oppose (present bureaucrats). I think they
are a little "Elitist"... No hands-on (get to the people) approach I
think. But I guess everybody agrres that they are better than us or
anybody else for that matter....

BTW, 2 new posts in the blog...

1) Law & Order Issues - II
2) Criminal Justice System & Indian Police Org.

-keshav

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From: Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 11:00 PM
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Are the judicial personnel in India political appointees? Am ignorant
here.
Who wields influence over them?


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From: Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 11:47 PM
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Subject: Re: gut-wrenching interview....

keshav,
what do you think about loksatta? is it working? did you say you ment
JayaPrakash Narayan?
I found this quite interesting (still reading..)
http://www.loksatta.org/corruption%20chris%20report.pdf

Keshav Pitani wrote:

>There are thousands of such examples... (check the blog - for some) we
loose
>more than 31,500 crores in bureaucratic corruption (alone) each
year....
>
>coming to IPS .... do you guys remember the shooting of an IPS officer
in
>Hyd in broad daylight by naxalites...
>The actual story is that he was very upright (like the one mentioned in
the
>interview... not letting the seniors get any money) and gave hell to
>naxalites in one of his postings... and was way too popular with the
>cadres.... so the seniors transferred him to a post with out any
security...
>and "some how" the naxals got info on him and shot him down... right
outside
>the police HQ in Hyd.... He was so popular.....In the entire Indian
Police
>history... this was the first time all the police stations coordinated
>(through out the country) in all the districts he served and every
police
>station (including all PSs in AP) sent one person for his funeral
that's
>how much popular he was from constables to DSPs. He was not as
>flamboyant/hypocrite like DT Naik or many others but quietly
implemented
>many schemes for the welfare of the lower cadre in police and did his
job
>very well.... and of course paid for it with his life....
>
>coming to the hit squads... Vigilante justice never solved any problem
in
>the world.. (atleast none that I know of)...
>
>I think.... if you can't do it with in the frame work of the
>law-of-the-land.... don't eliminate the law itself.. change the law or
>constitution or do what ever it takes.. but let's not cozy up to the
idea of
>jungle law.....(just my opinion)... we've already seen through out the
>world... armed struggle against the system will never work... The
system
>will always win... you might want to read up on the south American
armed
>struggles.. which are very close to Indian struggles.. but have
acheived
>some of the goals....
>
>And the questions is.... Who are you going to save by forming a hit
squad?
>Who does corruption effect? you might want to think it's the poor..
(its the
>money that should build the infrastructure and jobs etc.. ) but they
don't
>care... they are poor already... its actually the middle class whose
(tax)
>money is going into corruption... but the middle class is not a class
>that'll support in your armed struggle... they'll be first ones to
distance
>themselves from you... So who are you going to save? its only the
people who
>are directly affected who will support you actively.... like if their
loved
>ones get assaulted or raped or die because they didn't grease the
doctor or
>the cop or judge....there may be some more who'll support passively....
but
>you need active support to do this.. otherwise it won't work..
>
>I agree there are a lot of success stories with armed rebellions...
from
>Lenin and Mao to Napoleon & George Washington.... They were fighting
>against a system which was feudal and bourgeois... they were fighting
>against a system that was equally bad for everyone... In our case its
not
>so.. there are nearly 60% of the people who sincerely "vote" in every
>election and leave the rest to "Karma" that gives us less than 40% of
the
>people who may not be interested in the system.... But the most
important
>point to remember is that majority of our voters are from villages
which
>means the very people who you are said to be fighting for are actually
with
>the system even if they are illiterate and poor. We know what happened
to
>our own Maoists.... from Charu Mazumdar to Kondapalli Seetaramaiah...
(we
>still have many today) basically they planned to create a system
parallel to
>the existing system... in our society (which is a reasonably OK
democracy)
>its hard to convince the people who are doing OK in the present
situation to
>leave all that and take up arms...
>These days Naxalites are hanging onto people's ignorance to run their
>system... its not the same when majority of the educated used to join
their
>ranks like... Kondapalli Seetaramaiah, SriSri, Gaddar etc... The most
>important thing to remember here is that all these people were fighting
the
>system with another system.. none of them were vigilantes...
>
>What can be done... its not a simple solution..... but we need....
>Police reforms, Election reforms, Transparent governance, Judicial
reforms,
>Educational reforms, Land Reforms, Constitutional changes to name a
few...
>most of these are already well documented... Its true... I'm not
>exaggerating... try reading the National Police commission report
(1981),
>Shah commission report (1978), Law commission report etc.. there are
several
>of those... None (not one) of the suggestions were ever implemented...
>
>How do we do it? Its not possible unless there's a movement.. we need
>leaders like Mahatma who are clean and focused on only one thing
"country
>first".... Tall order I guess......
>
>-keshav
>PS: I was going to write about the police org & and why its in such a
>pathetic state in my next post in the blog... Hopefully I'll get some
time
>during Christmas...
>
>----- Original Message -----
>>Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 6:38 AM
>Subject: RE: gut-wrenching interview....
>
>
>Sad.
>
>Was it "bharateeyudu", the Kamal Hasan movie. Sometimes, I feel, we
need
>like a good guys hit squad or something just like that. No questions
>asked. If justice cant be served by the courts, then it shall be served

>in this way.
>
>Deepu
>-----Original Message-----
>From: >Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 8:02 PM
>To:>Subject: gut-wrenching interview....
>
>guys,
>
>this interview below is of a police officer who
>retired from the IPS after enduring years of
>harrasment for his upright ways.
>
>http://www.rediff.com/news/2004/dec/13inter.htm
>
>http://www.rediff.com/news/2004/dec/14inter.htm
>
>While I am under no illusions that this guy might have
>some axe to grind, even if a small percentage of his allegations are
>true it makes a gut-wrenching assesment of the beaurcracy in India.
>
>Keshav, this probably is in the blog. But what in your
>view can be done to reduce corruption in India?
>
>Sumant
>
>
>
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>