Wednesday, October 13, 2004

RE: Arjun... Still MBT?

Exactly. Its all about money and old doctrines. They keep changing the goal posts on Arjun every friggin time. The DRDO does acknowledge, that

Arjun has certain issues. But these need to be ironed out slowly. The current Isreali Merkava is one mean machine, but its night and day from the first Mk1

version.  Did they throw out the first one, no they build it from the ground up to be where it is right now.

 

Right now, after reading up on it, with all its li’l issues, it(Arjun) can still find (first) and kill all of its potential enemies in our south asian battlefield. If the Pakis do get

some M1 with its new MNNA status, then you can imagine whats going to happen to the T72s and T90s against them. The only one which can punch it out against

the M1s would be the Arjun. Some say that’s an unlikely scenario. We’ll wait and see. Countries get strong and into dictating terms by preparing, not hoping.

 

Deepu.  

 

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Pradeep Elamanchili

Architecture Research & Technology/CHG

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From: Keshav Pitani [mailto:pkeshav@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:28 AM
To: Elamanchili, Pradeep; Pradeep Ravipati; pravipati@gmail.com
Cc: pkeshav.ilavarta@blogger.com
Subject: Re: Arjun... Still MBT?

 

Did you see K Subrahmanyam's remark... I trust his and Jasjit Singh's opinions..

IExp didn't expand on it...  I guess Arjun does what its meant to do...  If they change the specs now its not Arjun's problem...

I guess somebody is going to loose money if they stop buying stuff from outside...

 

What bothers me most is that all this activity based on remarks by a stupid enemy general who doesn't know how to fight a war.....

Talk about the morale of the troops..   I never imagined Pranab Mukherjee to be a good defense minister... May be he'll suggest we buy the Italian Tanks (If they have any)

 

Whats worse is the media playing this stupid liberal role when it comes to Defense.

 

-keshav

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:09 AM

Subject: RE: Arjun... Still MBT?

 

Very opportune that you bring it up. This debate has been raging for the last few days on the internet forums.

 

Now what, we take the Mushrat’s claim about the Arjun. Arjun is one kick ass system. The pakis will soil their undies

if the Arjun is let loose among them. The army wanted a monster and a killing beast and they got one. No main battle tank

worth its name is smaller than 60 tons, the Abhrams M1A2, or the Isralei Merkhava, or the French LeClerc or the German Leo.

These are mean killing machines. The Alkhalid wouldn’t last 10 seconds against an Arjun.

 

The stink starts from the Russian Arms lobby. We have too many of them hanging in Delhi. The T90S was accepted with all its flaws and they

are being worked on. It has significantly less armour than the Arjun, the Arjun is more protected, and has order’s or magnitude better survivability

than the T90S( Lets not even talk about the T72, it’s a match box waiting to be lit, not withstanding the poor tactics of the people operating it in Saddams

army, we have seen hundreds of them taken out by the M1s in Iraq with not a single kill to its credit). And lets not pussyfoot around, the T90 is a

souped up T72, Even the Russians have acknowledged it and have proposed moves to the black eagle. But of course they want to sell us the T90.

Which is root of all this. Guys, money changes hands and tons and tons of it, with “phoren” maal. But not much with Indian systems.

 

Why don’t we just buy the Alkhalids, since we seem to take Gola’s word. They must be laughing their pants off in Pindi.

 

 

 

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Pradeep Elamanchili

Architecture Research & Technology/CHG

x552-0079


From: Keshav Pitani [mailto:pkeshav@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 9:17 AM
To: Pradeep Ravipati; pravipati@gmail.com; Elamanchili, Pradeep
Subject: Arjun... Still MBT?

 

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